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I would love to be that someone. Unfortunely I have been a loser all the way round. I can't get anywhere at the casinos! I'm about to call it quits for a while. It's not so much the fact that I haven't won,it's the fact that my deposits don't seem to get me very much play time.
ceks, I think there are very few members who actually post their screenshots here... I think us "regulars" do but just get the feeling that there are hundreds of players here who read and never ever post...
cas, you've got to try Caribbean Gold or another of the Vegas Tech casinos... they will take 48 hours to cash out so they are not the fastest, but even when playing just a quarter a spin I can win there.... and the tournaments are truly fair... you cannot continue, you can re buy only if your balance goes below 10 dollars... so everyone starts with the same amount..... it's truly luck... also they have this neat seven reel slot that you can play for 7 cents... and at Caribbean GOld, VIP Slots and Millionaire you don't have to deposit huge amounts to get their deposit match.... they give them on tues, thurs and sat for EVERY BODY....
cas, you've got to try Caribbean Gold or another of the Vegas Tech casinos... they will take 48 hours to cash out so they are not the fastest, but even when playing just a quarter a spin I can win there.... and the tournaments are truly fair... you cannot continue, you can re buy only if your balance goes below 10 dollars... so everyone starts with the same amount..... it's truly luck... also they have this neat seven reel slot that you can play for 7 cents... and at Caribbean GOld, VIP Slots and Millionaire you don't have to deposit huge amounts to get their deposit match.... they give them on tues, thurs and sat for EVERY BODY....
After not hitting anything worth mentioning for almost 8 months, I'm finally hitting again at Vegas Regal.
Made the playthrough on one of their bonuses 2 weeks ago and cashed out some, made the playthrough again this weekend and had nothing left to cashout..only bonusmoney.
But made the playthrough AGAIN on the free 25 chip that came with the bonus and cashed out the max of 50.
I'm really blown away by the amount of playtime lately at Rival, the difference with what it was for so long is shocking..
For what its worth, I have the feeling the games have certain periods of time, days maybe, in which they pay, then they go into non-paying mode for very long time.
Just look at my recent screenshots on Scary1, first I hit a 50x bet freespinround that saved my a$$ from a bustout, maybe 10 spins after that I hit the freespins again for 1200x my bet (my biggest hit ever on that slot), and again 10 spins later I get the double mad professors for 300x bet.
While in the x-thousand spins before I hit nothing worthwile!
I see the same at other Rival games, like Scary2 and Ps. sixties, if you hit something decent, play on because there might very wel be another good hit around the corner.
They always seem to group together.
Thats also why I suspect the games are not as random as they want us to believe. Too streaky for that.
(Egg)
Made the playthrough on one of their bonuses 2 weeks ago and cashed out some, made the playthrough again this weekend and had nothing left to cashout..only bonusmoney.
But made the playthrough AGAIN on the free 25 chip that came with the bonus and cashed out the max of 50.
I'm really blown away by the amount of playtime lately at Rival, the difference with what it was for so long is shocking..
For what its worth, I have the feeling the games have certain periods of time, days maybe, in which they pay, then they go into non-paying mode for very long time.
Just look at my recent screenshots on Scary1, first I hit a 50x bet freespinround that saved my a$$ from a bustout, maybe 10 spins after that I hit the freespins again for 1200x my bet (my biggest hit ever on that slot), and again 10 spins later I get the double mad professors for 300x bet.
While in the x-thousand spins before I hit nothing worthwile!
I see the same at other Rival games, like Scary2 and Ps. sixties, if you hit something decent, play on because there might very wel be another good hit around the corner.
They always seem to group together.
Thats also why I suspect the games are not as random as they want us to believe. Too streaky for that.
(Egg)
thats exactly what i've been thinking too anton,
like A Switch In Time, i was hitting like crazy on that and also Scary Rich2,
but lately, i spun lots and lots of times, and when it seems like i'm never gonna hit the bonus EVER again, i hit it, but i'm lucky if i even win $2 literally!
I have always seen this type of crap with every Rival, and especially in the beginning, i never played at them because my $25 deposit would last 10 minutes.
Then i started hitting a little months later after i decided to give up on them, but decided to try them again and did pretty good.
I find that i do the best if i keep switching around to different games,
if you get up and hit many bonus rounds on one slot, and then it seems you have spun forever without hitting the bonus, its definitely time to try something else.
like A Switch In Time, i was hitting like crazy on that and also Scary Rich2,
but lately, i spun lots and lots of times, and when it seems like i'm never gonna hit the bonus EVER again, i hit it, but i'm lucky if i even win $2 literally!
I have always seen this type of crap with every Rival, and especially in the beginning, i never played at them because my $25 deposit would last 10 minutes.
Then i started hitting a little months later after i decided to give up on them, but decided to try them again and did pretty good.
I find that i do the best if i keep switching around to different games,
if you get up and hit many bonus rounds on one slot, and then it seems you have spun forever without hitting the bonus, its definitely time to try something else.
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ceks79
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Im talking about wins on $2/bets and above ($2000 and more win) and with money that have no limitations... we all know its easier to win on chips with a $50 max cashout and on 20cent bets and on deposits with a a 200% or more bonus with a max cashout of 5X the bonus. Then the casino is insured and safe...real wins guys??
Show me fresh meat(new $2000+ wins)!!
Show me fresh meat(new $2000+ wins)!!
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you on the betsize part.
I do not think it has anything to do with it.
Ever since September until 2 weeks ago, thats almost 8 months, Rival payouts have been terrible for mee too, on my measily 20/40ct. spins.
And when I say terrible, I mean TERRIBLE, awful, dramatic, a nightmare.
In December we got $30 free every day from both Dendera and Tropica, thats over 50x $30 free and I could not even come a tiny little bit close to meeting the WR on a single one of them.
It got kinda funny in the end...Oh, the daily freebie, lets see if I can lose it in less that 4 minutes again at minimum bets, just like all the other ones.
Plus all the other freebies, plus all my deposits and big bonuses, hardly any playtime and not the slightest chance to meet WR.
The worst result was a 200% match, deposited $35, starting balance $105.-, total playtrough made on minimum bets $189.-
I've had a few small cashouts in December (got lucky with some comps) and Januar,(cashed out $35 on a free 10 chip and received THE BAN) but nothing compared to deposits, so I don't think my returns have not been significantly better than yours.
I do not think it has anything to do with it.
Ever since September until 2 weeks ago, thats almost 8 months, Rival payouts have been terrible for mee too, on my measily 20/40ct. spins.
And when I say terrible, I mean TERRIBLE, awful, dramatic, a nightmare.
In December we got $30 free every day from both Dendera and Tropica, thats over 50x $30 free and I could not even come a tiny little bit close to meeting the WR on a single one of them.
It got kinda funny in the end...Oh, the daily freebie, lets see if I can lose it in less that 4 minutes again at minimum bets, just like all the other ones.
Plus all the other freebies, plus all my deposits and big bonuses, hardly any playtime and not the slightest chance to meet WR.
The worst result was a 200% match, deposited $35, starting balance $105.-, total playtrough made on minimum bets $189.-
I've had a few small cashouts in December (got lucky with some comps) and Januar,(cashed out $35 on a free 10 chip and received THE BAN) but nothing compared to deposits, so I don't think my returns have not been significantly better than yours.
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ceks79
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Here is some nice shots from Rival
After this screen the slot were set in losing mode
and as always, when you make 400 spins without any free spins or bonus at all you ALWAYS get one when your balance goes below $1...
I won $4 in the bonus and then I came down to $0,81 and hit 10 free spins ofcorase...it gave me $2..ofcorase these free spins dont help, it just smoothes out the payout and so the slot have the "right" to bring the player down to a zero balance = new deposit hopefully....
But when I was down to $0,56 this very nice screen appear....first the slot just froze...but whne I clieck on the screen it became shaded in white...isn´t beautyful??
I promise you, these phenomenas ALWAYS happen to me this days...and always after this forst Error box screen the slots and whole casino just dies...probably cause it re-think its strategly and re-set payout when the player are close to meet playthrough...(but dont use a bonuse you say, but then it is tight from the beginning ofcorse)
I got a free spins or bonus at least eevery 2-5 minutes for one hour..the error came and nothing...just slow and glitch spinning and these nice pics and un-random events when the balance is around or below $1... you guys must have seen that rigged phenomena!
A loong mail again to the Rival casino reporting this malfuctions and glitches...other frustrating day working free for Rival...oh, I forgot, I pay them too with deposits. Im really stupid!
After this screen the slot were set in losing mode
and as always, when you make 400 spins without any free spins or bonus at all you ALWAYS get one when your balance goes below $1...
I won $4 in the bonus and then I came down to $0,81 and hit 10 free spins ofcorase...it gave me $2..ofcorase these free spins dont help, it just smoothes out the payout and so the slot have the "right" to bring the player down to a zero balance = new deposit hopefully....
But when I was down to $0,56 this very nice screen appear....first the slot just froze...but whne I clieck on the screen it became shaded in white...isn´t beautyful??
I promise you, these phenomenas ALWAYS happen to me this days...and always after this forst Error box screen the slots and whole casino just dies...probably cause it re-think its strategly and re-set payout when the player are close to meet playthrough...(but dont use a bonuse you say, but then it is tight from the beginning ofcorse)
I got a free spins or bonus at least eevery 2-5 minutes for one hour..the error came and nothing...just slow and glitch spinning and these nice pics and un-random events when the balance is around or below $1... you guys must have seen that rigged phenomena!
A loong mail again to the Rival casino reporting this malfuctions and glitches...other frustrating day working free for Rival...oh, I forgot, I pay them too with deposits. Im really stupid!
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ceks79
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Ofcoarse!
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ceks79
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Im telling you its liek this each and every time, dont you notice this strange acting by the slot around $1 balance?
I played this signeup bonus at this new Rival casino.... hit like crazy for 30 min and was up in $400 almost (dont forget I had playthrough so the amount dosent matter at all until playthrough is finished) and then at one point the game totally died again...got plenty free spins still but most of them gave $1 or $2 playing $1,2 and $1,4 bets...at one points I got this free spins with 45 free spins with a 6X multiplier when I was down to around $100...nice I though, gotta win at least $$250....guess what my total win amount was after 45 free spins worth $8,40 each??....$36 totaly win amount!!!
then strait down t ozero playing only 80cent spins....
There is a word describing this expreience, its call "rigged" and unfair payouts... And its so very strange, ive got this 45 free spins about 20-30 times since that game came...and Ive always won 1/10 or 1/20 of what could be expected from those free spins... sure I can take it if I get raped 1 out of 10 times and payed in peanuts but not eac hand every time!
I pissed Im so hooked up on Rival games, otherwise Id close all my Rivals and upload a virus in the Rival network so they would be gone forever. They really cheat us people. I promise you I see 100 different "rigged" events or strange un-random acting by the slots in each and every gamesession. I may be wrong about 20 or these 100 times but still....80 is 80 to many rigged events!
You hear me, open your eyes for your own good, run while you can, leave me behind, save yourself Ill fight them to make you some extra time!!
I played this signeup bonus at this new Rival casino.... hit like crazy for 30 min and was up in $400 almost (dont forget I had playthrough so the amount dosent matter at all until playthrough is finished) and then at one point the game totally died again...got plenty free spins still but most of them gave $1 or $2 playing $1,2 and $1,4 bets...at one points I got this free spins with 45 free spins with a 6X multiplier when I was down to around $100...nice I though, gotta win at least $$250....guess what my total win amount was after 45 free spins worth $8,40 each??....$36 totaly win amount!!!
then strait down t ozero playing only 80cent spins....
There is a word describing this expreience, its call "rigged" and unfair payouts... And its so very strange, ive got this 45 free spins about 20-30 times since that game came...and Ive always won 1/10 or 1/20 of what could be expected from those free spins... sure I can take it if I get raped 1 out of 10 times and payed in peanuts but not eac hand every time!
I pissed Im so hooked up on Rival games, otherwise Id close all my Rivals and upload a virus in the Rival network so they would be gone forever. They really cheat us people. I promise you I see 100 different "rigged" events or strange un-random acting by the slots in each and every gamesession. I may be wrong about 20 or these 100 times but still....80 is 80 to many rigged events!
You hear me, open your eyes for your own good, run while you can, leave me behind, save yourself Ill fight them to make you some extra time!!
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You hear me, open your eyes for your own good, run while you can, leave me behind, save yourself Ill fight them to make you some extra time!!
I cannot prove anything ofcourse, but personally I believe there is no RNG at work during free spins.
The whole outcome is already pre-determined.
At that point I fully agree with you Ceks, I've seen soo many strange to impossible things happen in free spins...and not only for the bad, but also the unrealistic wins sometimes.
A while ago I hit 5 scatters on Cleo Coins, with some more retriggers the total amount was 170 free spins.
Total win was $170.- on a 0.75 bet.
Not THAT bad, but still, most of it came from the first 10 spins when I hit a bonusround (the only one in the entire 170 spins!!) and a full line of Ceasars, and the last 10 spins.
The 150 spins in between paid almost zero.
I've never ever seen so many dead spins in a row on that slot.
And 45 FS at 6x on a $1.40 bet only paid $38.-??
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That would have cost me 2 keyboards and a monitor at least!
The whole outcome is already pre-determined.
At that point I fully agree with you Ceks, I've seen soo many strange to impossible things happen in free spins...and not only for the bad, but also the unrealistic wins sometimes.
A while ago I hit 5 scatters on Cleo Coins, with some more retriggers the total amount was 170 free spins.
Total win was $170.- on a 0.75 bet.
Not THAT bad, but still, most of it came from the first 10 spins when I hit a bonusround (the only one in the entire 170 spins!!) and a full line of Ceasars, and the last 10 spins.
The 150 spins in between paid almost zero.
I've never ever seen so many dead spins in a row on that slot.
And 45 FS at 6x on a $1.40 bet only paid $38.-??
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....That would have cost me 2 keyboards and a monitor at least!
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ceks79
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Yeah its just amazing...and if we two see these thing most other player do too but nobody say anything..and the software control commission just look at total payout % over a monthat all games...the fact that a slot can pay $1000 on one $1 spins and the 999 spins without any wins at all dont affect the payout %..but still its unrealistic, but as long as payout % is ok EVERYTHING is ok! ...winning $400 the fist 30 min and then 20cent bets down to zero and free spins pay zero is nothing wrong...??? My a**!!
YEs, I belive too the free spins are pre-determined just as the bonus rounds are, thats a fact and we all have seen it. Many sltos have had this glitch were if you are too fast on hit the start button or do it twice too fast you are bypassing the bonus game and coming right to the finish screen where total win amount count up to a certain value...this bug Ive report 100 times at many slots. Even on the new Bitch in Time slot it happen to me once when I was about to slaugher that T-Rex and pressed "Start" many times in a row to speed up the slow animation and I was directed to the finshins screen and coins counted up without having to flame that big animal.
I think Im about to change my playign strategy...if I feel I can lose $25 and dont care I will only use 100% more bonus and then make $5/spin or more from start and hope for that big one and then play 20cent until I meet playthough and then run and flush and freeze account for 6 days.
After 20min-1hour the slots WILL shut down and steal your money, if it atleast could cover this rigged event up more..nono, no shame at all.
YEs, I belive too the free spins are pre-determined just as the bonus rounds are, thats a fact and we all have seen it. Many sltos have had this glitch were if you are too fast on hit the start button or do it twice too fast you are bypassing the bonus game and coming right to the finish screen where total win amount count up to a certain value...this bug Ive report 100 times at many slots. Even on the new Bitch in Time slot it happen to me once when I was about to slaugher that T-Rex and pressed "Start" many times in a row to speed up the slow animation and I was directed to the finshins screen and coins counted up without having to flame that big animal.
I think Im about to change my playign strategy...if I feel I can lose $25 and dont care I will only use 100% more bonus and then make $5/spin or more from start and hope for that big one and then play 20cent until I meet playthough and then run and flush and freeze account for 6 days.
After 20min-1hour the slots WILL shut down and steal your money, if it atleast could cover this rigged event up more..nono, no shame at all.
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Call it fate or whatever, I was just at Vegas Regal playing on a free 10 chip, was down to 11 cents left on Scary Rich II so I went against my usual strategy of walking, and instead played 11 lines, hit the bonus round, got three wilds on the first three reels.... won a whopping 12 bucks lol.... I do swear they're programmed to do that....
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ceks79
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Yeah, it is programmed to do it.. I spins like this every gamesession...last spin of 40 cent...it does this just to smoothe out payout % and so its "ok" to bring you down to a zero balance after...this free spins feature gave little mor e than $1....ofcoarse its one of the lowest payed free spins..the bestpaying comes in the beginning when yu are stuck in a load of playthough so the softwre is safe....
I got 2 free spins features with 45 free spins at 6X multiplier...one on 80cent bet and one in $1 bet (4 scattered green ladies) Both features payed almost exact $100... and we are talking 45 free spins worth $4,80 and $6 each....Im surprized Im payed below $500...and I got the expanding wild "hourglass" twice in both free spin features...and each time it got blocked by a non-paying scatter or it did only complte 3 low paying symbols.....
This wild "hourglass" shows up on first reel each and every 5th spin in basic mode...here we talk 90 spins and only 4 times and paying a few dollar..whe nit also triples each spin worth around $6...that 4 spins worth $18!!! each paying almost nothing.....and ive got this 4-scatter-trigger feature about 40 times since this game launched and NONE of these 45 free spins have payed out good...not even close to fair...always at least 10X less than expected... Anyone call this just "bad luck" or rigged game/software??
Is it really legal to say there is a 6X multipler and then lower the payout % during those 6X multiplied spins? It cant be more obvious it is programmed to tighten payout when there is a multiplier like that.
WTF!
I got 2 free spins features with 45 free spins at 6X multiplier...one on 80cent bet and one in $1 bet (4 scattered green ladies) Both features payed almost exact $100... and we are talking 45 free spins worth $4,80 and $6 each....Im surprized Im payed below $500...and I got the expanding wild "hourglass" twice in both free spin features...and each time it got blocked by a non-paying scatter or it did only complte 3 low paying symbols.....
This wild "hourglass" shows up on first reel each and every 5th spin in basic mode...here we talk 90 spins and only 4 times and paying a few dollar..whe nit also triples each spin worth around $6...that 4 spins worth $18!!! each paying almost nothing.....and ive got this 4-scatter-trigger feature about 40 times since this game launched and NONE of these 45 free spins have payed out good...not even close to fair...always at least 10X less than expected... Anyone call this just "bad luck" or rigged game/software??
Is it really legal to say there is a 6X multipler and then lower the payout % during those 6X multiplied spins? It cant be more obvious it is programmed to tighten payout when there is a multiplier like that.
WTF!